Samantha Morris (00:00.718)
Hello and welcome to whatever happened to the gentleman podcast. The podcast for anyone that is frustrated, lonely, single person and wants to get back on track with their dating relationships and love. I am your host Sam Morris. If you have been watching my Instagram posts, you will know that I have a new personal trainer.
And so today I'm actually sitting here in quite a bit of pain in my back because she got me to do some horrendous deadlifts that are truly believable for a person that is way stronger than me. Today on the podcast, I have coach Ollie Cook, who is a fear and anxiety coach.
I met him through my own coach, actually, my own mentor. We are in a very large community. And when Oli inquired to be on the podcast, I started reading up about him because I do check out everyone before I allow them to come on the podcast to see if we kind of align with each other. And his story was really inspirational to me.
I've spoken before about how my own anxieties have kind of manifested in my life and how I didn't realize up until I kind of changed my whole life that I lived in a constant state of anxiety. So that is pretty much how Ollie felt as well. And in the podcast, you know, he talked about how he
on the surface to everyone else, it appeared like he had it all. He ticked all the boxes. Great career, great relationship, and actually underneath all of that, he was living in anxiety and living in fear. So, without further ado, I will introduce this episode to you and I really, hope that you get as much from it as I did.
Samantha Morris (02:21.821)
So I have Ali cook with me today. Ali, do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah. So I am a mindset and anxiety coach or entrepreneurs, driven entrepreneurs, high achieving entrepreneurs. so usually what that means is they come to me with a desire to sort of optimize their mindset. And what we do together is kind of clear the
fears, anxieties that are running at like a subconscious level. So there's kind of limiting beliefs that they have and shift so that they can move towards their goals faster and feel significantly more fulfilled and not just hit goals, but also feel good whilst they're hitting them and after having hit them and not just kind of onto the next thing immediately. yeah. What got you?
into that because it's an interest at school. Most people don't think I'm going to be a coach. It's probably not something that's introduced to anyone at school. So yeah. Where do I start this? think a bit more recently, I suppose what shifted me into the niche that I'm in with my work with my business now is kind of hitting a bit of a rock bottom where I was
I lived in Vietnam. from the UK, but I lived in Vietnam for five years. And in 2020 during COVID, I moved to the center of Vietnam and I was with my partner. found this amazing Villa and we were like living in this Villa and for every, had sort of clients externally, everything seemed to be going great. And I was the most anxious I've ever been in my life. Panic attacks, like sort of really not good. And yeah, I think.
I was already really interested in mindset personally. And then that kind of almost like kickstarted this drive of like, must be a better way. There must be a better solution. There must be something that's more useful than the stuff that I already knew and the meditation that I was doing and then these other things. And it's sort of, yeah, I came across some pretty amazing mindset tools and coaching that I then brought into my coaching and now.
Samantha Morris (04:44.129)
That's what I do for other people because I really resonate with the pain that they've been in and it's, yeah, I kind of know what works. Yeah. I did read about you doing hour long meditations and that resonated with me because I've been there and I've been like, I've been meditating so much and nothing is changing. Everything is exactly the same. But I really...
love your story because it just shows that what we are showing to the outside world isn't always what is actually going on inside and a lot of my clients, a lot of my listeners always feel like they are kind of missing something or they are not successful because they haven't
got to a certain point in life and they thought they'd be married and having children by a certain time in their life. And they look at other people and they're like, they've got it all together and I've not. And I always try and say to them, well, if you went a little bit deeper, you would probably realize that they haven't. Not everyone is perfect. And certainly social media doesn't portray the real life.
Right. Yeah, absolutely. We get the highlight reel and some ways that's shifting a little bit more with certain people, but in general, it's still like highlight reel and very much like this is the corner of my life that I'm showing and willing to show. And I think, yeah, I definitely noticed this with my mind and with my clients. And one of the things that I
share with them is because what I think our minds do is they cherry pick certain information and it's like, I like their car. want that. Or, I like that they just did that amount in their launch. I want that. I like that they do that with their partner. I want that. And it's like sort of cherry picking something without realizing that's just not possible to do. You know, if you were to have that thing that they have, you would also have to have their entire life, their entire family, their, their history, their memories, and you'd also have to give up all of yours. And yeah, I think it's very, it's so easy to sort of.
Samantha Morris (07:02.549)
get sucked into that and think, you know, what's wrong with me that I don't have that. As well as the fact that so many of those ideas get like installed in our minds when we're so young. It's like, this is how our life should go. This is what you should be doing. And then opening up Instagram or Facebook and being like, oh, those friends are doing that already. Or they're doing that. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's interesting because you are told and a lot of the time it's from parents or maybe you had someone that was really
influential at school for you, a teacher, but you are told from very young how your life is going to be and you see how other people behave and you tend to. Some people don't, but the majority of people follow what they've learned throughout their whole life.
And I actually had this conversation with my daughter, I've got a 15 year old and she's like, I don't know what I want to do with my life and all of that. And when I was at school, I was told, because I was saying to, had a careers advisor who would go through all this stuff. And I said, I want to go to university and I want to study law.
She turned around and she said to me, you will never be anything more than an admin assistant. Stop trying to think that you're better than that. And I went home and my mum was very unhappy about it. she was like, my gosh, how can they limit you? But that is how I could have took that and just been like, okay, that's fine. Not that there's anything wrong with being admin if that's what you want to do with your life.
Yeah. But it wasn't what I wanted to do. And so I could have spent my whole life just sitting in a job that I hated and not doing. I love my job. I get to change people's lives. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, it's amazing that you got out of that and shed that label because I think often we don't even notice that those things just kind of went in and someone said something.
Samantha Morris (09:17.831)
And all of a sudden that's just how you think of even your identity. Right. And particularly when we're young and when authority figures say things like that, like commands like that, you will be then whatever that fill in the blank. Those things, kind of, they sort of, they go round and round. That's one of the things that I do for my clients is to kind of clear some of those earlier memories where beliefs get coded. It's like, that's where I learned that. That's where I learned that was unsafe or that's where I learned that.
I'll never be anything, whatever. And yeah, it's, it's amazing what, like how that energy can still be going to that, like mental energy can still be going to kind of, to that, takes away from sort of what's possible now and limits the sort of field of vision of like, well, what can I actually do with my life? Sort of without realizing that was a limit that was put there without, without consent ultimately. Yeah.
And I think if it had have been someone kind of like my mom or someone that was super close to me, then I probably could have stuck with that. And I remember my first A-level, I did A-level French and the first lot of exams I didn't pass. Me too, actually. really? Yeah. Yeah. And I went home and I told my older brother and he was just like, it's okay, you'll pass next time.
gave me a hug and then I did. But if you kind of surround yourself with people that do that, then your outcomes might be better. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's right. Did you the second time? Well, I think I got like a D the first time or something and then maybe got like a C, something like that. I can't remember now. I just remember it was really hard and I did not like the way that they taught languages at all. And I got
into languages after that, like living in Vietnam, like learning Vietnamese. And I was like, wow, actually, I can learn a language. Like I had a belief from school that I was really bad at languages. And then I had to kind of overcome that belief, learning Vietnamese to, and realize, actually, I just didn't really resonate with this, the way in which they were teaching me too. And it wasn't fun. wasn't natural interest in it. And when there is, it's so different.
Samantha Morris (11:39.213)
Well, off topic slightly, but still on topic. We recently had to go around because my younger one is starting secondary school soon and we had to go around and look at all these different schools in the area. And they still teach languages in exactly the same way that they taught me at school 20 plus years ago. And I just, there is a better way.
to learn that. So yeah, I'm the same as you. I've come away from that and found different ways. And although I'm not fluent in French, I can understand it quite well. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. So you've been around a lot and I did read that you are you moving to South Africa or you is it? Yeah. Yeah, I am. Yeah. It's on the card.
Yeah, later this year. So my partner is from South Africa and we've been together seven years now. And we met in Vietnam and yeah, so she's from Cape Town and yeah, we were sort of, it's quite hard actually living with somebody who's not from the same country and trying to figure out like where you can live together and sort of different challenges that I didn't realize really existed. so yeah, we're sort of in the process of figuring that out even still. But yeah, so we're planning to move there.
Yeah. That's very cool. Yeah. I'm excited near her family as well. Yeah. I've only ever lived in the UK, so I'm envious of you. Maybe one day when my children are not little anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So what I wanted to ask you is because obviously you work a lot with fear and anxiety and
What are some of the ways that you would say fear and anxiety show up for us that we might not even necessarily realize that it is actually fear? Yeah, that's a really interesting question. I, so yeah, as somebody who used, I used to experience general anxiety all the time, but not all the time, but a lot of the time. But then I would also have like localized phobias to things.
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and like panic attacks around certain things. And I don't experience what I would call anxiety anymore. But that's because my subconscious beliefs have changed, that we're causing it and perpetuating it. And some of the ways that it used to show up for me that maybe weren't so obvious would be like, I stopped having caffeine at one point, because I was like caffeine, this is must be causing it. Because I'd learned that from certain courses that I was doing. And I'm not saying that that's not true. It might be to some degree, sort of igniting the sort of spiral of it. But
What I realized is I can have as much caffeine as I want now pretty much because my mind couldn't tell the difference between anxiety in my body physically and the sensations that caffeine brought. And so it would sort of start, I'd start feeling anxious and the caffeine would just kickstart the cycle where I didn't realize that it wasn't actually, I wasn't actually anxious or worried about something. It was just the caffeine, but then that would just start it off. And so
That was something where I was like, I had no idea really that there was things were separate. I always just thought, no, that caffeine just causes the anxiety, but in a way it does because my mind then thought there was some kind something to be fearful of. And so, yeah, that's, that was one thing. Yeah. So I work with entrepreneurs. think some of the ways fear is obviously fear is things like perfectionism. When trying to get things perfect, whether that's like making graphics or designing
presentations, workshops, emails. It's ultimately at the root of it. It's more, it's just a fear of judgment ultimately, most, most of the time. And if this isn't perfect, what are they going to think of me? And that at a deeper level being perceived as a big old threat. Like if they perceive of me in a negative way, unconscious mind understanding that as a lion is about to eat me. Yeah. Well, having an online business.
you have to get over that quite quickly because people on the internet say lots of mean things. Yeah. And that is kind of that, that can, like I've had that before where I have not posted because the day before someone has said something horrible to me and I've not been able to kind of get over it enough to then post.
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And I had someone say to me that you could be not helping someone simply because of your own fear. And I was like, oh, that's an interesting way of looking at it. But it is, because you obviously work with entrepreneurs and you are constantly a judgment. People are constantly, am I going to buy? Am I not? Yeah. Yeah. Did that work?
What they said to you? that help? Yeah. I had to do a lot of work on myself around that. I have two businesses, this is like, it's been going a long time and yeah, just getting over what people say. And a lot of the time I've had DMs where people are giving me abuse and it's very different because I used to work with a lot of violent men.
and having a man in front of me shouting, I can cope with very well, like inside, I'm like, my God, but I am very calm and I can deal with that sort of situation. But when it started online, the person's not in front of you. And my automatic sense was to defend myself. And I had to just get over that and be like, actually, like you cannot.
argue with people that think it's okay to give you abuse on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no reasoning with those people. Right, right. So yeah, that sounds like there's a big shift and I think a lot of people really resonate with that. And yeah, it's just not worth time and energy. And it doesn't mean anything about you ultimately. think that's like the thing that's useful to get as an entrepreneur is when
If you're sharing something and five different people are reacting in five different ways, what can it mean about you? It's a projection of what they're seeing. Exactly. A projection of how they're interpreting that data. think in like the people that I work with, a lot of them, it's the same issue where they think that they have to be perfect or they have to have their whole life put together before they start dating. And they have to have this much income and their own house and all of these things.
Samantha Morris (18:52.235)
That is their fear of being rejected because of not having or being where they want to be. But my answer always is that if someone is meant for you and that they're a good person, they will grow with you. love that. Yeah, that's beautiful. And I think definitely that sort of resonates for me in my particular journey with my current partner and like,
We had this really interesting moment before we met where, where I was kind of like jumping around a bit from like sort of small relationship to relationship, but nothing was really like, didn't really like get me in the fields. I wasn't really feeling like super connected and got to a point where it was like, I realized that it was a really unhealthy relationship that I was in. was like kind of not even really a proper relationship, but
I was doing things that were way past my boundaries that I just didn't want to be doing. If I'd had the choice, I'd be like, well, why am I even doing this? yeah, I mean, for me, like I was sort of, they, they really loved drinking and partying and stuff. And I would find myself like going out partying, like, not because I actually wanted to, cause I'm not super like into partying, but I would find myself doing it just because of fear of like, what if they were like cheating on me when I, if I wasn't there or something. so was like, fear was like running and ruling.
And it was just this moment, like a few months in where I was like, why am I doing this? And I just like, just broke it off completely. And then I was like, you know what, I'm just going to be content by myself for a while and just like, re-figure out what is it that I like doing? what is it? If I didn't have to, if fear wasn't ruling that, what would I do? And then once I'd made that decision in my mind that I don't quote unquote need anyone, that was when a short while later, my partner was like...
Here I am. I also don't need anyone. How about we just choose this thing together? Yeah. You just solved my program because that is basically what I do. Move past those things, set what your standards are, move on from the stuff that was not so healthy. then people know, I do believe that people come into your life as you need them and when you're ready.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it sounds like your program is spot on them because that is, and we had this like, we like matched on Tinder and didn't message each other. And then a few months later, or just did like did a high and then it was one of those things where we like then never spoke again. And then a few months later, I think I can't remember, one of us sent each other a message. And then, no, sorry, it was just before that we actually saw each other in real life three different times.
And then we're like, okay, we should probably go for a date or something. The universe is like, you two need to meet. Like, why are you not meeting? Right. It was weird. But we've done so much growing together. Like, I think it'd be safe to say that neither of us would probably select a version of us to go out with seven years ago, because we've grown so much, we wouldn't even recognize or resonate with that version of us. So yeah, I think.
Definitely. You sort of meet at that point where you're both, yeah, where you're both sort of like at some kind of stage where you're connecting and ready to grow together on whatever is that's coming up. Yeah. Well, that was kind of my whole point that you can't be perfect before you get into a relationship because no relationship is perfect. There will always be things that happen.
Even if they're not massive, they don't have to be, I'm not talking about cheating and things like that, but there are times that my husband came to me a few years ago and was like, I hate my job and I literally can't do this anymore. And that from an income point of view, it's like, okay. But you navigate these little life things and you're moving. That's it. And navigation, even if both of you want it.
move country, it's still the logistics of it doesn't make everything smooth sailing. Yeah, right. Life isn't smooth sailing. No, no. That's such a point. I think this idea of perfect is, can be kind of there, unexamined. And it's like, without realizing it, I'm looking for this perfection.
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And then once you start to question it, you realize, it doesn't actually exist because what is perfect. But until that's examined, you're sort of chasing this thing. And then you're always falling short of it. You're always going to fall short of it because it can't be defined. So it's like, so it can never be met. And I think that's breaking that idea so that it's like, well, okay, perfect doesn't exist. So what makes sense? What would be good enough?
What would you, yeah, what would I like? How would you tell people, what would you say to people that are listening that are like, I'm in that space. What obviously I would always say working with someone to point out certain things, because we don't always see within ourself what needs to change. And I've got a coach, you've got a coach, we all have. But other than getting a coach, what?
other things could people do? Yeah. Would this be if they were sort of single or with someone or just in general? If they're trying to just be perfect all the time. Yeah. Number one, stop trying to be perfect. It doesn't exist. Yeah. Just getting that it doesn't exist can already start to take a bit of the weight off because then it's like, well, if we agree that doesn't exist.
what makes sense then to actually aim towards some sort of target that can be hit. And yes, depending on what the way where you're sort of looking to change what area I think it's kind of hard to answer without like maybe more of a specific example. Maybe we could come up with one because my mind's blanking on that.
That's right. I'll put you on the spot, didn't I? I told you, it's a conversation. It's not a job interview. And then I've done exactly what I said I wouldn't do. No, I want to be able to answer, I'm just like, yeah, I mean, you can, some things that I've tried sometimes journaling and stuff can help like free flow journaling where you're sort of noticing what ultimately like what beliefs you have about something, it can create some level of separation from
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a belief that's there and then realizing, maybe this is why I keep getting into this pattern because I believe this. And what I, as like a facilitator and coach, what I would, what I often look for is like conflict is what I would call it. So it's like, okay, so that's your goal. Would it be totally okay with you if that were to happen? And if that's not like a yes, like green lights instantly all the way down, then, then there's likely some kind of belief.
that it wouldn't be safe or wouldn't be okay. And so then that's the thing to that's the thing that's ultimately been getting in the way. And so, so you mean that people like a setting goals that ultimately actually somewhere deep inside they wouldn't be 100 % happy with it. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, even just like kind of
If it feels unsafe, I think that that's the main thing. Maybe not happy. Just because, yeah, I think unsafe is like the Trump. So that, that like wins out. And if at some level, the mind is like, this wouldn't be safe for me to get, then that's going to be a hard sell. Cause it's like trying, if there's someone like having an old guy having a heart attack on the side of the road and someone's next to him giving him a sponge bath.
the paramedics are going to push the person out the way giving them a sponge bath to put the paddles on because unsafe trumps like happy, nice, good. so we shifting those beliefs. Yeah. If they're like looking for a relationship, but then actually their actions are kind of holding them back because of that fear. And cause I have a lot of people that they say they want a relationship.
But then when I go a little bit deeper into, well, what are you actually doing? And they're dismissing every single person that they speak to because they're just like, no, but there's not actual reasons. I worked with someone once that he would not date someone that had a nose ring. And when we like did it, cause I was like, well, do you have an issue with piercings? And he was like,
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And this is what is this all about? And we kind of went, and why is that? Why is that? Why is that? And the root cause of it was that his first girlfriend had a nose piercing and she hurt him a lot. And he associated just a simple thing, like a nose ring with her and pain and fear of that happening again. And so it's kind of dismissing
women and there was someone at work that he thought was really attractive, but she had a nose ring and it was just a no from him. you passed it. They are actually together. wow. Yeah. It's those sort of things that you're saying you want this one thing and then your actions are something else, which means something else is going on. Yeah.
Yeah. And it sounds like you, got it right. You got to the root of that. And then there was like a sort of aha moment. It's like, it's not actually noise rings. It's like the combination of like, because when two things happen at the same time, unconscious mind thinks that those things are related. So it's like, even though like nose ring was not at all related to, you know, everyone's different. It was like, that means that. And so therefore no nose ring, because nose ring comes with all this baggage. Yeah. And then when that's
gone and that myth is busted. And it's like, Oh, okay. Maybe it, maybe a nose ring wouldn't be so bad. Or maybe it would just be neutral. Yeah. did get pretty annoyed with me though. Cause I was like, yes, but there is something and he's like, can we move on? I'm like, no, because there's something here. I don't know what it is and you don't know what it is, but there's something and we need to get to the bottom of it because this is something that shouldn't really be an issue. Wow. And then he ended up getting together with her, with the nose ring. Wow. So that was amazing.
So, we're gonna wrap up in a minute, but I wanted to ask you about your, you went from a, is it a methodology or the rapid route level shift? Is it method? that, am I describing correctly? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So it's like a sort of a combination of the things that I'm trained in and experienced and have kind of
Samantha Morris (30:45.281)
figured out works super effectively. and yeah, it's essentially some of what we've been talking about. You, we are like identify and very quickly get to like, what's been the root cause of this thing that's been been playing out. And then once, and sort of, if that's with, let's say like fear around a specific thing, someone's like, I don't want to launch my new program. And every time I think about
doing it or doing the next action on my to-do list, I just like freeze up with fear. And then I start doom scrolling for like two hours and then feel even worse. And then I want to go hide whatever it might be. Maybe not that extreme. Actually, I tend to, the people I tend to work with actually like, usually they default to action. they're actually like, taking a lot of action. they kind of notice as soon as they're sort of not doing it on something, it's like, there's a fear there. And so.
way that we do that is then to sort of get to the root of it and then address logically what's been going on. And then also at the deeper level of the mind, what's been going on and then create a new intention and you plan going forward. Check that's all got green lights all the way down with unconscious mind as well, and then sort of install it basically. And so a lot can be shifted in even one session, but like I offer like a sort of three session package, which
can do a significant amount. Like, so, so one client that I had a few months ago was coming to me with like a lot of anxiety. Like she was a mother working flat out in her business, really committed a hundred percent and up till midnight and then waking up at four or five in the morning. And basically just on like full mode the whole time and nervous system up to the max and really struggling to like down regulate and rest.
or what is that? And in, in just a couple of sessions, what we did was basically like, got things to shift at a deeper level of her mind so that she could actually like stop. And it felt safe to be able to like switch off. And because logically she was like, yeah, I know it makes sense to like have some downtime. Like she, she was like, yeah, can't even being sick is not allowed. Ultimately in my business that would not be allowed. It's like, but that's not even something you can control. Right.
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ultimately, but it still wasn't allowed. And then it was like, okay, but what if it was, what would you do? then sort of, yeah. So, so getting those messages to really sink down at the deeper level and then that's where change feels like natural automatic. So I do those one set one month intensives and then also six months or like at each new level of growth, there is new fears. There's new like things that become unfamiliar. So it's sort of like stacking.
And yeah, basically no longer fear being a reason that you don't do something. I love that. I like things to be quick and I like them to be as simple as possible. I always say to people, could go, because I did 12 weeks of therapy years ago to do with kind of my own relationship traumas.
And still after 12 weeks, I was no further forward. And I had to take a step back and be like, well, a lot of the stuff that we were doing in those sessions was stuff that I was already trained to do. And not some people do need some really intensive therapy and absolutely they should get it if they need it. But there are some things that you don't need to take two years.
of a session a week doing. And that's why I really like, cause I looked at how you do things in three sessions. Great. And then to build on to that when new stuff comes up, simple solutions. Yeah. So, so sometimes, sometimes people choose to stay with me for longer, but what we do in one month can be really impactful. like at the beginning of last year, I had someone who came to me and they're like, I really want to start a podcast.
but I just, I'm, I just don't think I can be consistent. I just feel really like worried that I will drop off after like one or two months. And like, and we basically just like rewired her beliefs about that and sort of took all the pressure off and made it this thing that was like interesting, appealing, exciting to be doing. And she sent me a voice note after Christmas, this Christmas we just had, and was like, I stuck with my podcast all year and I started putting it.
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on YouTube in October, a couple of the videos went viral and now I have so many clients, I'm turning people away. I was like, whoa, that's amazing. Yeah. Which is like my one-on-one is full. I don't know what to do. I need to start coming up with programs to scale. You need a group program. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that was just one month because it was like, well, that was just what was required to get the momentum to start moving with it. And I think
getting some level of momentum can be such a huge thing. often, think overwhelm is when we think like, I need to sit down and eat the entire table of food in my first bite. I don't know how to do that. It's like, if you just start with one mouthful and then you get the momentum. If you wanted to eat the whole table, maybe you're good, but just like momentum then builds on it. You get more momentum after that. And yeah, it's fun to watch. fun. Yeah.
So what you're saying is after our chat now, my podcast is going to go viral because I'm going to post on YouTube and you are clearly the good luck charm. Yeah, I mean, if it does happen, don't be surprised. That's what I'm Yeah, well, to be fair, I could have used you because I had the same thing with the podcast where I started it and then I was like, I don't know.
how to commit to this every week. And yeah, I needed someone to, because my conclusion took longer than three sessions. It was me progressing it and then basically having to just be like, get over it. And I am trained to help people change their behaviors. So we all have these problems. Right. And trying to apply them to ourselves is like,
the most difficult thing. It's like, think of it as like trying to give yourself a haircut. It's just, you can have, you can be so good at it, but like trying to do it on yourself is just like, we all have blind spots and that's why it makes sense to get other people to cut our hair. Yes. And to help us get over office. Yeah, indeed. Well, it has been lovely talking to you. If people want to find out where you are, I will put it in the show notes, but if you want to tell them as well.
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Yeah, they can go to my website, is ollie coaching at coaching.com. Yeah. And you are the same on Instagram as well. I think there's a dot. Yeah. My memory's Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for accepting my request.
and I thoroughly enjoyed it. How cool is that? So I will put all of Ollie's details into the show notes. He does have a really, really cool freebie, which is the Fear Reset Audio. So if anything that you listen to today, anything that you heard really kind of made you feel a certain way and made you think, maybe, maybe I'm living in fear. Maybe I'm living in...
in anxiety then go and check that out. As always I want to thank you for listening to me. There are millions of podcasts out there so the fact that you listen to me every week I never ever take for granted. I am truly truly grateful. I would really with that in mind love to be able to reach more people and the only way that I can do that
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And if you really feel drawn to helping me out because you love the podcast so much, then do that. I will speak to you next week. Thank you.
