Sam Morris (00:03.726)
Hi, Bae. Do you want to introduce yourself? Sure. Hi, I'm Bae. I am a sound therapy practitioner and podcast host in Canada. I have been through a lot of relationships and a lot of, I guess you could call it failure, but I really think they were great life lessons and I've learned a lot and I'm so happy to be here.
Talk about it all. Yeah. when you fill in the form, I was like, she's professional and she's got life experience. and I really kind of resonated with your story. And I think a lot of my listeners will do that because from what I read, it was, you were on a path that you thought you was on.
and then things change very quickly. Yes. You want me to talk about that? If you feel comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. I, so I guess it started, I got married in February, 2020. So right before the world shut down. Yeah. And that year,
Everyone was saying how 2020 was horrible for them, but I thought it was great because I got to step into this new identity as a wife. And it was one of those life things you check off. Like I'm married now. My little brother had already been married. I felt like I was behind in life and now I was married. And because the world shut down, we got to spend
My husband and I got to spend so much time together and I thought that was great because we weren't arguing, we weren't fighting. Everything was just smooth and then...
Sam Morris (02:11.595)
Yeah. And so during the pandemic, I realized a whole bunch of things that my life was not what I wanted it to be. So it's almost like marriage sparked this whole like shift for me. I ended up quitting my full-time job and my husband supported me fully in finding my passion. And then I discovered human design and then I started deconditioning and like shedding all these layers of
who I thought I was versus who I actually am. And then my husband and I moved 3000 kilometers away from our friends and family because it was cheaper to buy a house. yeah. And then I had a spiritual awakening. I had found, like one of my best friends died suddenly. He had cancer and he didn't even know. And that sparked a lot of physical pain.
that sent me to a craniosacral therapist who was so intuitive and she recommended chanting. I was like, I should probably say that I've known since I was three years old that I wanted to do something in music. I wanted to be a rock star as a three-year-old and I would perform for people and sing for people. And that never ended up happening. But I had this moment where I just,
My craniosacral therapist suggested I look into chanting and then I found vocal toning the chakras. And during a vocal toning, which actually ended up being on Lionsgate portal, which is August 8th, which is a big cosmic, you know, alignment date. And I got this out of body experience. My body multiplied into like six beings and we were holding hands in this circle and a phoenix rose in the middle. And I just got this
message to just go towards sound therapy. And from that moment, and I've been changing so much. And then my husband and I started fighting. And things, things were not, not great. And multiple times I had to say kind of, if we can't communicate properly, we're not going to be able to stay married.
Sam Morris (04:36.981)
And so my whole life, I guess I was going through this whole growth period from when we got married until last year when he blindsided me asking for a divorce. And,
Sam Morris (04:55.853)
Yeah, it's still, I guess it's still a little hard to talk about that, that blind side, but like I, whenever I would talk to anyone about my husband, I always said how great he was and how supportive he was. Cause for about three years in there, I was trying to find my passion and, it was that spiritual awakening moment that set me off on the sound therapy and which is what I'm doing now. But for about three years, I was just kind of floating around and I always said how supportive he was and how great he was and how
how he was so different from anyone else I ever dated because he was just so supportive and he was like, will, don't worry about money. Just find your passion. I know you're gonna do great things. And then he just out of nowhere packed up his stuff, left me in the middle of the night and he, I should clarify, he left, but he came back.
in the morning to tell me he was leaving. And so I woke up and I had no idea because he had planned it all behind my back and he had got everything ready and he had like moved his stuff out in the middle of the night and said he was not coming back and there was no chance. We didn't get a chance to work on it. We didn't get a chance to go to therapy. I didn't even know. All I was saying was like, let's communicate better. I wasn't saying like, I was just saying it's a foundation for a good relationship to have good communication. I wasn't saying I actually wanted to split up.
But now, now since he's been gone and I've continued on my growth, can see so I, I felt like I was a bird in a cage with him because he was kind of controlling everything. Even though I was finding my passion, he was controlling everything about our situation being the only financial, I guess breadwinner. Yeah. Yeah. Provider. And
Now I feel so incredibly free and I was faced with my worst fear, which was being alone. And I was not only alone, I was alone 3000 kilometers away from all my friends and family. So I was literally alone and he just left and my dog was there. So I was not literally alone. But through all this, I had to face my biggest life fear and
Sam Morris (07:23.289)
I feel incredible now and I'm 10 months past the separation date and I feel incredible even though I had had to, I had no choice but to face my biggest life fears and to, to do all these hard things and I feel, I feel so great now despite all that. Well done. Thank you.
adults, we don't tell each other well done enough because you went through something that was very difficult and you are here to tell the tale about it. I think that sometimes, I know this with myself and my own experience, that when people get together,
they, you know, they're in a way, you know, and it happens a lot when people are a lot younger and they kind of have been together, which was my experience. And then you start to grow as a person and change, you know, we all, as humans, we all change. We're always evolving and, you know, getting better the majority of the time. Yeah.
And if the other person isn't growing at the same time, it can create a lot of issues. And it sounds like that's exactly what you were doing. Yeah. That you were discovering yourself and discovering a lot about yourself. And he probably didn't like the new version. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, because of course he's blaming me for everything.
I'm the problem. Which is hilarious because I know that whenever we have problems, it's usually just a reflection of ourselves. That's how the universe likes to echo to us. yeah, I think that's absolutely true. It's very hard to admit I am wrong. Yeah. That, you know, all humans struggle to do that and
Sam Morris (09:45.197)
Even like children, that's why children lie because it's very hard to be like, actually, yeah, I did do that. And actually it was hurtful. It was bad. shouldn't have done it. So people put blame on other people because they can't accept their own faults. And it took me a long time. my ex has been...
We are actually on good terms now. But we spent a lot of years where it was my fault, his fault, my fault, his fault. And, you know, I would say a lot of things were his fault and they were. But I still had to like now I will take some responsibility for certainly letting certain things happen.
and letting it go on for so long because I did make that choice. I made a choice to stay for longer than what I should have. And he will accept some fault now. A minimal one out. If he ever listens to this, I'm sure he'll accept no fault and be overly happy about it. But yeah, it is hard as humans to
except for, and this for you is very new. Yes. It's a new experience. So did you stay in the house? I did for about a month while I packed up my stuff and then I moved back in with my mom. Yeah. It was really hard being in the house because we had only bought it together and lived there together. wasn't
you know, one of our places first. Yeah. I moved back in with my parents too. Yeah. It's a little bit embarrassing. Or I felt it at the time and I was like, and people were like, well, we knew it wasn't going to work out. Oh, wow. No one told you that beforehand. Yeah. Just after.
Sam Morris (12:09.133)
Yeah, of course. They're being supportive. Yeah. So since then, obviously, you've moved back to you're back from being far away from everyone. Yeah. So that has that helped? Nope. I actually feel incredibly alone here, too, because I've grown so much that I don't feel as in tune with
I always call it like my old life, like who I was versus who I am because I've stepped into this. I believe I've lived my whole life as this identity of who I thought I should be checking off all those life goals that society tells you you have to do or that you should do and that you should want. And now I'm living for myself according to my human design and it feels so liberating and so free and it's not who I've been before and I'm telling people how I feel and I'm
I'm committing to things and then canceling plans because it doesn't feel aligned anymore. And I'm making these, and I feel so whole in myself that I used to go from relationship to relationship to relationship because I was so afraid of being alone. And now I'm, I almost feel that I'm more afraid of someone else changing this wholeness that I found in myself. And so I want to feel good in my wholeness before I...
welcome someone else into the fold. So it's so different. And yeah, I do feel quite alone here because I even the activities that sometimes my friends are surprising me, I shouldn't assume that they don't want to do these new things. Like I've started going to this Russian steam spa, and it's so new for me. And I'm so obsessed with it. But it's such great self care. And people are actually wanting to come. And so
It's almost like I've leveled up and they're like, it's giving them permission to level up too. But yeah, so it's weird because they don't really know what I'm going through because I don't have any friends who are divorced. yet, I don't know. It's this weird, I feel lonely, but I feel so good in myself. I get that.
Sam Morris (14:34.413)
I've been watching Cobra Kai with my friend, right? He's upset, he wants to do karate now and it's fine. But there was a quote in there about a cobra and what it does to make itself better. And it sheds its skin. And I sat there watching this pro enough thing and obviously.
my son and my husband did not get the epiphany that I had. I was just like, my God, that is so like life. When you start growing and you start moving forward, you have to start shedding certain parts of who you were before. I do not have the same friends that I had at all when I was in my first marriage. They, you know, have naturally fell away.
You know, there have been like arguments and things, but they've naturally fallen away because when I started to rebuild myself or even find out who I actually was.
they didn't fit with that. And it's, you know, and I still have a lot of love for all of those people, but we just naturally grew apart. And what then happened was other people walked into my life. And so like you saying about you, you're worried about someone kind of changing who you are and...
It won't happen. Yeah. I can tell you that from my own story that my now husband literally walked up to me and put his hand out and said, hi, I'm Alan Morris. Wow. But I was ready to be who I actually am.
Sam Morris (16:43.061)
and I've never had to change any part of myself in our whole relationship. He's just accepted who I am. even, you know, we, I went to Phoenix and I was like, right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go here by myself. And he's just like, okay. And I an outer body experience there and I told him about it. And he was like, I don't really understand this, but you know, I'm gonna roll with it.
And it does happen. It's just sometimes you have to go through.
the shedding for that to happen. So if you were like to meet new people, could you find something that's local to you that is interested in the same sort of things that you're interested in and you could just go and find some new people? Yeah, I'm working on that. There's not as many
communities in this town that really align. And so I think this is my calling to step up and start one. those people will come. yeah, but it's so scary shedding and then it's almost like you're exposed as you shed away the old skin and then you're like, you're exposed as this new version of you and, you want to do it, but you still have this
these old thoughts of, no, I can't do that. But then you're like, but I can, yes I can. Yeah. It's very strange when you meet new people as the new version of yourself, how easy it is to be yourself. So my best friend, I met her at an exercise class. wow.
Sam Morris (18:48.333)
probably three years ago, four years ago, I was like, I'm gonna go to this exercise class and she was there and she will tell you that her first thoughts of me was that I was ignorant because I'm slightly deaf in my left ear and she was saying something to me and I was just completely blanking out because I couldn't hear her.
And it was really weird that so yeah, it must be four years ago because I Had probably met her at this exercise class About five times and I just had this feeling inside that I needed to invite her to my wedding. It was so bizarre because obviously I didn't know her
that well. Yeah. And she is, you know, if, if people talk about soulmates that she is absolutely that for me, but I can say whatever I think. And there's no filters because she just accepts me for who I am. And I remember like my whole life I've been a person that
similar to you, I went from relationship to relationship and I just wanted people to love me. So then I would do things to make them love me that didn't necessarily feel completely right for me. Second guessing, you know, everything that I'm saying, is this person still going to like me if I say this or if someone's upset me, I just wouldn't say anything because
I want them to still be my friend or I want them to still be my boyfriend. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, me too. Yeah. It's like I'm in a mirror. Yeah. And when you were talking, was like, oh, it's me. Yeah. But then when you start to meet new people and you don't actually have to do that. So like me and my best friend, we went skiing a couple of weeks ago.
Sam Morris (21:08.909)
And we shared a room all week, had a great time. And then I've not seen her for two weeks since then. And I went and met her yesterday. We went for a walk and she said to me, I thought you'd fell out with me. And I said, I thought you'd fell out with me. And it was just so, and we were both laughing, but because she's the type of person that I can just be myself, I can just say to her,
You didn't put kisses on the message that you sent. So I thought that I'd upset you. And there was nothing that I'd actually like done to upset her.
But it's so easy because then it's like, well, no, happened. Everything's great. Yeah. And you will find, and I think it's a good idea for you to create your own community of people. And if there isn't anything like, obviously you do a lot of the sound therapy and the spiritual and human design, there's a lot of people interested in human design. And if there isn't anything
Local to you there will be other people that will wish in There was yeah. Yeah Yeah, I gotta accept the calling Yeah, because even so there was this store that's been in town for like 13 years and they just closed and it was the closest thing I had to like these kinds of events that I would want to go to and there now they're closed and I'm like Now I really need to do this
Yeah, this is the universe sends you signs and we're supposed to listen to them. And yeah, sometimes we don't so much. Yeah. I heard a couple of weeks ago. No, this is at the beginning of the year. I had applied to go back.
Sam Morris (23:16.395)
to what I used to do. So I used to work in prisons and I'd had it in my head for ages that I really missed helping people change. And I get to do that in this job, but in prisons, the majority of those people have never had a chance. If you kind of go all the way back, they never had anything. And so I'd applied and then I got a lot of...
because it's a government department, a lot of issues with the back and forth. And so on the day that I was supposed to go in and give my ID, I sat on the floor and I meditated and I just said, you know, show me, give me a sign, whether I should go and do this. And all I heard back was a voice.
saying I've been giving you signs and you're ignoring them. And so I emailed and I was like I'm not coming. Yeah. And I think this is this is your sign. Yeah. That's the thing. We always ask for signs and we don't want to see what's there. But also I believe that sometimes the signs come and we're not
quite ready to see them. Like we're asking for the change and then the universe and we think the change is going west, but the universe like, no, no, no, you're going to go east. And so you're not really looking east. You're still looking west. So like, it's, it's kind of a mix of like not wanting to see it because it's not what you think it should be. then, yeah, just, yeah, it's like, you got to open your eyes to any possibility and then you can see what's coming.
And I think that's the say, you know, when you go back to relationship, no one gets into a relationship thinking, yeah, I really want this relationship to end one day. True. I really want to get divorced. No, no one's thinking that because people that are thinking that normally don't then go and get married in the first place. Yeah.
Sam Morris (25:37.555)
It's just, sometimes it takes us a little bit longer to, to realize that it's not the way. So you're, you do sound healing. Yes. And, know, like, obviously I said, I said to you before we came on here that I haven't been to a full
sound bath. Yes. My gym does do a little class. that was, we do a bit of Pilates, a bit of yoga, and then we do a sound meditation at the end for like 15 minutes. And I know I said to you, one of the times I saw myself in, in Japan with the kimono. And, what I didn't tell you was I left that sound meditation and I
came home to my husband and I said to him, we need to move to Japan. And he was like, maybe we should go view it first. That was the response, not like, no, Sam. And I was like, no, I've seen it. seen it. You know, I did the sign meditation. I've seen myself. I've got a kimono and
He was like, I still feel like if we're going to make that big of a move that we need to go visit beforehand. And I just left it off. And this was before I realized that they had the Japanese garden of friendship in Phoenix. And then obviously when I saw that, was like, I'm not meant to move to Japan.
I'm just supposed to go to this place in Phoenix. And that's what I did. And I did buy a red kimono in which I wore, just like what I'd seen. So tell me if I was like going for a sound meditation for the first time, a full one, not one like at my gym. What would I...
Sam Morris (28:02.109)
expect and what would it get out of it? Yes. So definitely go in with curiosity and an open mind because sometimes you might hear some sounds that may be triggering, but they're only going to come up if you're ready to release whatever's coming up. So it's all happening on purpose.
And I can't speak for every single sound practitioner. I do my sessions very intentionally and I have an open emotional center in my human design, which means I feel what you're feeling 10 times more than what you're feeling. And so I can really guide the sounds that way, even though I don't really know what I'm feeling. Like I had a woman who had been, she'd survived a hurricane and I was playing my ocean drum and I felt so anxious, but I didn't know.
why I was feeling anxious. didn't know until after that she was feeling anxious because the ocean drum reminded her of the hurricane sounds. But why I'm bringing this up is because something may trigger you in a sound session. And like I'm saying, it's normal, it's a safe space, you can breathe through it. And you can also ask for some extra support after if you're still feeling triggered after. But usually you would
The sounds would kind of like gradually go down and the therapist would bring you out. So you should be able to release what you're feeling, but always bringing a journal so you can write stuff down to work through like to support that. And I always suggest that sound is supported by something like therapy. So if something does come up, then you can bring that up. But what you can expect is you, I call it lazy meditating.
because you go, you get all the benefits of meditation, but you don't have to think about your thoughts. You get to listen to the sounds and most of the time you fall asleep. And what most people don't know is you listen with your whole body. You're not just listening with your ears. So when you're asleep, your body is absorbing those sounds, those vibrations, the healing vibrations, because what most people also don't know is all day you're receiving vibrations from.
Sam Morris (30:24.493)
cars to electronics to the electricity running in our walls. All of that is a vibration and they're not they're designed to work. They're not designed for health. so going to a sound session is like receiving vitamins and also it's like a reset to your body because your body is meant to be humming at its own frequency and not disrupted by life.
But that's why like a regular sound session once a month, once a week, whatever feels best for you can really help re tune your body. Because also fun fact, astronauts were because the earth vibrates and astronauts were getting sick in outer space because they weren't feeling that natural vibration. And then they put a frequency emitter in the space shuttle and they stopped getting sick. so yeah, we have all these vibrations and we need these vibrations.
and some throw us off and some realign us and that's why. Anyway, so you can, you go and you bring blankets, you get really cozy. It's like I said, you can have a nap. You can totally just sleep through it, which is great. And you go and you just hear the sounds and not all sound practitioners are created equal. And everything will be a different experience. And so if you do go to one and it wasn't really your thing, give a different practitioner a try.
because someone like me with a lifetime of music experience and a classical training, like I'm a classically trained clarinet player. My band actually went to the UK to play. We toured around the whole country. Yeah. And yeah. So when I was in high school, yeah. So, so I come at it with a musical background, whereas someone else in my training was a massage therapist and her background was just, how do I play these sounds?
Whereas I'm like, how can I make a musical experience out of this? So it's just different. so, yeah. Well, that's the same with anything really, isn't it? You know, if you go to therapy and I said this to my mom, actually last week, she had a therapy session and she didn't like the person or she didn't like the vibe. And she was just like, therapy is not for me ever.
Sam Morris (32:48.941)
It doesn't matter, you know, like you could go to a therapy, you can get a coach, whatever it is, even if like a business coach. I have a business coach. You have James as well, don't you? Yeah. Because he resonated with something within us, but there's lots of other people out there that do similar to what he does, but we just don't resonate with them. Yeah.
in the same way. And so that would be the same with the sound buffs and the sound therapies. You go, maybe the first time isn't for you. And I have this, when I go to gym classes, there's some trainers that just, I won't participate in their class just because I don't like their vibe.
It's not even that I don't like them as a person or anything like that. It's just the way that they train. Yeah. It's not right for me. I like that. Brilliant. So if people want to find you, where can they find you? I will put it in the show notes as well. Okay. Yeah. I am on Instagram at soundslikebae, B-E-Y.
And, I mean, I'm not, I'm not really in love with social media, so that's kind of where I hang out. I have, I just started YouTube channels, so I have some sound meditations there. If you want to test one, there are, I keep them short because you can always like play it again. and, or yeah, I also have a podcast, the inner sound check, and I do sound in my podcast and I help you tune into yourself.
and release stuff using sound. But I'm really playing with the format because that's part of my human design. So I'm like, I'm flowing with life, but that's where you can find me. Well, I did see that you will create and correct me if I've got this wrong, bespoke sound for people. Yes. I was looking at that on the website. was like, that is cool. Yeah. So it would essentially you would you
Sam Morris (35:16.555)
You would fill out a form with me, tell me what you're going through. You know, maybe you're going through a breakup, maybe you're going through a divorce, maybe you're just moving. don't know, whatever you're going through in life, changing jobs, whatever. And so you'd let me know that we know a 15 minute chat so that I really understand. And then it would be really custom. Be like, okay, Sam, get ready. You're going to, we're going to sit down, get really cozy. So it's going to be, it's really personal. It's not just a generic sound. Yeah. So it's, love that. Yeah.
That's, that's what I like, because I, I have always wanted things to be more specific to me, because a lot of, especially in the online space, a lot of stuff is, how can I help a lot of people with my one product? And I really have always craved, that's what I love about like therapy and stuff. It's one on one, it's helping my specific needs. So that's why I want to help people in that same way. No, I love that. Because I'm
I have a program, I call it the Healing Haven, that it goes along with my other program, but I created it because when I was doing my original program, I realized that some of the skills that I have as a practitioner that I naturally use on myself, the majority of humans don't have those skills. So like being able to bring yourself out.
of a situation where your emotions are really high and being able to calm yourself down so that you can actually respond appropriately and take yourself away from situations. And within the Healing Haven, I do have like long form meditations for people where it's just noise. It's not me talking at them where they can just sit for a long time. Yeah.
and go where they need to go in their mind. So that is so interesting to me that you can create like bespoke ones. Yeah. I'll speak to you about this after. Okay. Yeah. Cause the other thing too is like, if I'm in my space, I have all of my instruments available. And I would just feel into, okay, what does this person need?
Sam Morris (37:45.451)
what can help them in this particular situation and just feeling in them. Yeah. Yeah. I just love it. Okay. Well, I am going to wrap up. Thank you so much for coming out. I know like obviously people, if they watch this on the YouTube, they will see that my light has got darker and darker because it's getting to nighttime and the light switches like over there.
And I didn't want to be rude. So yes, that will explain it. If you are watching on YouTube, this is what's happening in my office right now. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me.
